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| Subject: Defying Gravity Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:27 pm | |
| Okay, so I was in Wal-Mart, saw this series, and asked, "What's this? I never heard of this..." So I got a copy (only $20) and watched it. It was surprisingly good. I really enjoyed it.
It's a bit on the adult side of things (let's say, PG-13), but I found the series really was the best, most realistic near-future science fiction space series I had seen in quite a while. It had a level of depth that I was not expecting as I continued to watch, and I found the final episode moving and emotionally thought-provoking.
Anyone else watched this?
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| | | CrochetOwl RANK: Brigadier
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:19 pm | |
| If I recall correctly, this was a BBC/Canada production. I watched only the first two airing of the show (essentially because there is an actor I liked in it) but couldn't get into it. It reminded me of other shows too much. Seems as though I'm getting more and more finicky with shows I really enjoy. |
| | | timewarrior RANK: Time Lord, Gold Usher
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:23 pm | |
| I defy gravity once a day. . .gravity always win. . .but still our battle continues. . . |
| | | ^o^CORVUS^o^ RANK: Prime Minister
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:18 pm | |
| That's because gravity is a harsh mistress. Just ask the Tick And nope, haven't seen the show in question. ======================================== ... ^o^CORVUS^o^Doctor Who: The Winds of Time |
| | | bret_owen99 RANK: Time Lord Council Guard
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:22 pm | |
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| | | ^o^CORVUS^o^ RANK: Prime Minister
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:10 pm | |
| Exactly! ======================================== ... ^o^CORVUS^o^Doctor Who: The Winds of Time |
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:08 am | |
| - CrochetOwl wrote:
- If I recall correctly, this was a BBC/Canada production. I watched only the first two airing of the show (essentially because there is an actor I liked in it) but couldn't get into it. It reminded me of other shows too much. Seems as though I'm getting more and more finicky with shows I really enjoy.
I agree totally at first. I thought, "Eh. Is this it?" But then...wow, it exceded my expectations. I put it down as MUST-SEE Sci Fi that you should definitely watch through once. Once they leave Earth's orbit, it really takes off |
| | | Ronpur RANK: The Doctor
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:31 am | |
| I will add it to my Netflix list!! |
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:10 pm | |
| Well, 2 episodes in and I like it. |
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:57 pm | |
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| | | Ronpur RANK: The Doctor
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:23 pm | |
| - Who North America wrote:
- How far now, Ronpur?
Got Disc 2 tonight! Kind of hoping I don't get too disappointed that it ends too soon. Love the characters, love the tech, Love Ron Livingston since Office Space and Band of Brothers, so that is a huge plus! |
| | | Ronpur RANK: The Doctor
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:09 pm | |
| Halfway thru disc 3, this show has me hooked. When was it on and why didn't I see any ads for it? |
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:29 pm | |
| Wait for the payoff with the last episode...
And yes, it was abandoned before it had a chance.
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:35 pm | |
| OK, that was awesome!!! I am so crushed that it ended! I loved these characters, loved the story, loved the ship!! I wish the creator would at least write books to finish the story line. I am so glad you picked this up at Walmart and posted it here. I never would have heard of it. The last episode was amazing! I, too was cheering "Come on Zoe!!" |
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:42 pm | |
| I about broke down in tears when I heard, "It's our baby..."
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 pm | |
| Here are the spoilers for what would have happened should the series continued: - Spoiler:
Defying Gravity creator James Parriott discusses how Defying Gravity would have continued on, had the show lived to see more seasons.
Nadia — She had quite the odd hallucinations, didn’t she? Who was that man she kept seeing, and why did he look so much like Nadia? As Parriott revealed to me, some fans of the show got it right in their guess that she was, in fact, a hermaphrodite when she was born. The choice was made for her when she was 11, by her parents, which sex she’d ultimately become. So that man we’re seeing is actually what Nadia would have been, had they chosen to raise her — or him — as a man.
Now, here’s the wild kicker. All those DNA changes that are happening with the crew, caused by Beta and the other artifacts? Well, they would eventually wind up causing Nadia to gradually turn into a man.
Parrriott also said that it was planned for Nadia to really have a more significant presence in season two. “If you see the way we wrote her, she sort of had that male sexuality about her, that ‘f*** ‘em and forget ‘em’ mentality. So we wanted to write her sort of as a male character in a female body.”
Donner & Zoe – Probably already guessed or assumed by many, but Donner’s reversed vasectomy was part of the DNA change brought upon by Beta. Eventually, toward the very end of the series, the true reason for that happening would be revealed, when Zoe becomes pregnant again on the trip. So yes, even Zoe’s hysterectomy would be “reversed” in order for that to happen.
“They were all going to be tested. The idea was that they all had points in their lives that, if they could do them all again, then they would have chosen a different path. Beta — the ‘fractal objects’ — were going to put them up against those same situations and stand them up to themselves again, give them a chance to make another decision.”
Wass — I asked what the Wassenfelder character’s significance was going to turn out to be, since, for the most part, he only seemed to serve as the comic relief for the show. “Dylan [Taylor] sort of has that different gear that we had to exploit, which is sort of that funny gear. And he had a relationship with Paula Garcés the first time we put them together, and we just though that was a relationship we have to mine. That wasn’t the initial plan, but Wass was going to have something like Pervasive Developmental Disorder [similar to Autism] and have a great fear of people touching him and having contact with other people. He was going to become a weirder guy. One reason I didn’t have hallucinations for him was because I didn’t have any for him worked out yet!”
Arnel Poe — “Yeah, people guessed pretty early on that it’s Arnel’s leg loss that gets Zoe back into the program. At the beginning of the second season, she’s going to be at home, has a job teaching college, she’s going to have another romance, she’s going to have washed her hands of the whole thing. Donner’s going to be going nuts. They’re going to be doing the survival training for the mission and Arnel was going to lose a leg, and Zoe would be called back.”
Jen — Was she mistakenly put on the mission? Why can’t she see the fractal objects? “No, she was correctly put on the mission. And she can’t see [the objects] because, if you look back at when she was in the isolation tanks, she has a fear of abandonment. Jen seems to always need a man, and she’s very needy that way because she was abandoned as a child. And what the fractal objects were doing was she was going to become extraordinarily lonely in season two, and the bunny was going to "naughty word" up the ship and she was going to have to kill that bunny. That’s her thing she was going to have to overcome, that incredible loneliness.”
Eve — “In season two and season three, and leading into Mars, Eve was going to discover that the flashback she has of Mars, where Ted is yelling ‘go go go’, she’s going to realize that on top of his helmet there it says ‘Antares’ — so she was actually seeing the future. And she’s going to realize she has to go to Mars.”
Rollie — “Rollie was going to be in jail for his [driving incident] and have to be pulled out and take Eve [to Mars]. And they were going to go up in one of the resupply vessels to Mars.”
Goss — “Goss would not be the bad guy in the end. Goss would find out that he’s been being duped a little bit, and that it’s bigger than all of them.”
Beta and the other “fractal objects” — “I was never going to define what they were. I think that’s one of the themes about the whole show, is the theology of it. Is it God? Is it not God? Is it alien? What is the Universe? I do believe in a greater being, a greater thing, and this fractal thing is really an amazing thing. I was reading in The New Yorker how stock market swings follow Pi, the fractal equation. And that’s sort of a scary thing, that it just moves. You can plot the right dips and curves [of the market] that it does indeed move fractally, and that just blows me away. There’s just tons of stuff we don’t know.”
Other reveals:
•They would eventually get all of the fractal objects during the course of the show. •Arnel, Trevor, Ajay and Claire would have been behind the “true” mission being revealed to the world, eventually. The three would be forced to work with Trevor in a sort-of underground initiative and ally with him when they see that he’s right in that something larger is being hidden. We would find out that Goss is hiding a larger agenda, and then there’s an even larger agenda that even Goss is unaware of. •The state of the world — the planet Earth itself — would have been revealed. “We didn’t have the budget to do it the first season — it was struggle enough just to get the ship up and running and do the shows with the quality that we had. We were going to reveal the world at large and, y’know, it’s kinda a fucked up place.” •On that note, I mentioned the scene where Wass says he “could sleep through World War IV,” and Parriott had no idea what I was talking about. He said he’d been through the shows “eight million times” and never remembered seeing that. When I told him the episode and scene (episode 11, Wass at the isolation chambers), he said it must have been another case of Dylan Taylor ad-libbing again, and he totally missed it. •“There was horrific stuff we didn’t show that happened on Mars. Sharon and Walker had actually lived a couple of weeks in the habitat on the planet. Half of season three would probably have taken place on Mars or in orbit around Mars, but we hadn’t worked out fully what exactly they were going to find on Mars. But we did talk in the writers’ room about possibly having the two still alive when they arrived.”
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| | | Ronpur RANK: The Doctor
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:20 pm | |
| Thanks for that. I suppose that it the best we will get to the rest of the series. I would love a model of Antares! |
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:56 pm | |
| Thanks WhoNA for the spoilers on Defying Gravity, absolutely loved that show, if I ever get mega wealthy I'll pay for this to be concluded. |
| | | Ronpur RANK: The Doctor
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:59 am | |
| - Doctor Detroit wrote:
- Thanks WhoNA for the spoilers on Defying Gravity, absolutely loved that show, if I ever get mega wealthy I'll pay for this to be concluded.
Well hurry up and make those millions!! |
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| Subject: Re: Defying Gravity Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:35 am | |
| Anyone who was interested in this series, I found a prop store selling props from the store. They also have battlestar and Caprica props, too.
http://defyinggravity.propworx.com/
I ordered a press kit for the Antares mission. I will post pictures here when I get it on Thursday. |
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