New DWM pictures (Spoiler topic!!)

Has anyone else seen the pictures of the new

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in the new issue? Very different, but still look great to me. They are meant to be a different breed than the Pertwee ones, a cousin. Which is fine with me as the Sea Devils were cousins as well.

Ronpur wrote:

Has anyone else seen the pictures of the new

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in the new issue? Very different, but still look great to me. They are meant to be a different breed than the Pertwee ones, a cousin. Which is fine with me as the Sea Devils were cousins as well.

Awww I want to see.

Everytime I see "Silurian" I think of the era...
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a1cmustangpilot wrote:

Everytime I see "Silurian" I think of the era...

Same here...and then, as an historian and an environmental scientist, I remember that there is no way the Silurian period could have produced or sustained such creatures. Those guys were native to the Permian period, at the earliest.

The 3rd Doctor himself points out this inappropriate name, though I can't remember if it's in "The Silurians" or in the later adventure "The Sea Devils". I think it's the latter.

Sincerely,

Bill

He does, but he gets it wrong too. He suggests the Devonian period, which is also far too early. Still among my favorite monsters, though, and I'm stoked to see them again!

mysterylad wrote:

a1cmustangpilot wrote:

Everytime I see "Silurian" I think of the era...

Same here...and then, as an historian and an environmental scientist, I remember that there is no way the Silurian period could have produced or sustained such creatures. Those guys were native to the Permian period, at the earliest.

I know, have you seen "Primeval"? They have the Silurian scorpions, which, if it wasn't for the fact that I twitch horribly watching that (deathly afraid of scorpions) which are hugely inaccurate. For one, the scorpions that were around during then (I don't think it was during this particular era where they were onland yet) were only a few feet long and didn't travel very far from open water. And the ones that did grow to being as big as they were in the show lived under water...

"Primeval" is fun but very wrong a lot of times. I loved "Prehistoric Park", for all its flaws. "Primeval" got annoying for me though. :/ I just got tired of all the meat-eating creatures being the ultimate evil on the face of the earth because they kill to survive when humans kill for sport and eat meat. I'm saying this as a meat-eater too... but I truly believe in the silly saying, "Fish gotta swim, birds gotta eat."
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I think the Primeval producers just combined a bunch of ideas to create a monster that suited their purposes. There were some big aquatic arthropods in the Permian (eurypterids hit 8 feet long, but they were aquatic), and in the late Silurian there was mixopterus, who hit about 6 feet and could come ashore. So the seeds of the idea are there. Primeval mixed it all up, though. Their scorpions were far too big and hailed from the wrong period; unfortunately, "Carboniferous Scorpion" (which would have made a lot more sense) just doesn't have the same ring, so once again, science and history took a beating for entertainment's sake.

I didn't see them depicting the meat-eaters as evil, though. In fact, I thought the show usually did a fairly decent job of respecting those creatures' role in nature. It's been a while since I watched the series, but I don't remember the monsters being evil.

mysterylad wrote:

I think the Primeval producers just combined a bunch of ideas to create a monster that suited their purposes. There were some big aquatic arthropods in the Permian (eurypterids hit 8 feet long, but they were aquatic), and in the late Silurian there was mixopterus, who hit about 6 feet and could come ashore. So the seeds of the idea are there. Primeval mixed it all up, though. Their scorpions were far too big and hailed from the wrong period; unfortunately, "Carboniferous Scorpion" (which would have made a lot more sense) just doesn't have the same ring, so once again, science and history took a beating for entertainment's sake.

I didn't see them depicting the meat-eaters as evil, though. In fact, I thought the show usually did a fairly decent job of respecting those creatures' role in nature. It's been a while since I watched the series, but I don't remember the monsters being evil.

Maybe that was fandom derived then, because where I was at, all the predators kept getting referred to as "monsters" and after a bit of discussion, it was simply for the fact that they ate people.

I'm not sure why Primeval thought that the bigger the predator, the more scary it would be. Personally, the little rhamphorhynchoids were a lot more terrifying in their mass than the Gigantosaurus. In "Prehistoric Park" they showed the little (big) scorpion and I'm sure it was big... but I closed my eyes when it came onscreen. Did you watch series 3 at all? I won't say anything in case you haven't, but my point about them being portrayed as just mindless monsters came from that series.
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I've seen these pics before, and I'm not sure about them. I do prefer the classic ones.

They are very different. I can't find any pictures online, and my scanner is down. They show the new costumes, and very nice reptile heads. No light up third eye anymore. No big ears. But, the Sea Devils were very different than the Silurians. They were just another race of Earth Reptiles. I can accept these guys, too. But would love a cameo of the originals in the episode,too.

For once, I'm keeping this one a personal surprize. I wonder how long I can keep it up .

As soon as someone posts the pictures!

Ronpur wrote:

As soon as someone posts the pictures!

Hopefully we'll have a spoiler policy by then!

Even so, you can tell if there's a photo on a page. The page is wider when you first enter. If that's the case, I'll just turn off my screen and run away!

That's why I put spoiler in the topic of the thread. In case I get pictures. It may not be wider, if the picture is small!

a1cmustangpilot wrote:

Did you watch series 3 at all? I won't say anything in case you haven't, but my point about them being portrayed as just mindless monsters came from that series.

I did, but for some reason I only remember a couple of the creatures. Wasn't that series heavily weighted in terms of the future predators? Those things are portrayed as more monster than predator, I'll grant you.

mysterylad wrote:

a1cmustangpilot wrote:

Did you watch series 3 at all? I won't say anything in case you haven't, but my point about them being portrayed as just mindless monsters came from that series.

I did, but for some reason I only remember a couple of the creatures. Wasn't that series heavily weighted in terms of the future predators? Those things are portrayed as more monster than predator, I'll grant you.

Ah yes, I almost forgot about them in the one episode. I'm glad the future in Doctor Who isn't in sepia.

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Ronpur wrote:

That's why I put spoiler in the topic of the thread. In case I get pictures. It may not be wider, if the picture is small!

This is so why this spoiler policy will struggle to work! I just can't help myself.

scarywood wrote:

Ronpur wrote:

That's why I put spoiler in the topic of the thread. In case I get pictures. It may not be wider, if the picture is small!

This is so why this spoiler policy will struggle to work! I just can't help myself.

Yes, to avoid spoiler, you must not click the spoiler tag or go into the spoiler threads!! Something I can never stop doing either!